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  Which JWD Posters believe in the Powers of the Occult???

  by What-A-Coincidence in

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  It still creeps me out just like the Borg said it should. So I guess I do, but not for a good reason
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  So..You donate your money, and then you have to pay intrest on it??!!

  by Lady Liberty in

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  good morning everyone "happy thursday!!",.

  just reading another thread, and it made me think of a question i could never answer as a jw.

  how is it that when your hall wants to build, you recieve the "loan" from the society, but then you have to pay the loan back with intrest??!!.

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  I confirmed this with my JW mom on a new KH they are building. (She signed up to bring food) . Anyway, she said yes, they would be paying back with interest. Funny, I had forgotten about the monthly payments the Halls make to the Society. While a dub, I honestly thought that the poor Society needed to get the money back for other Theocratic needs. They didn't have any income except for donations. My eyes and thoughts were really glazed over!
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  Update! Drew Sagan is no longer a Jehovah's Witness

  by drew sagan in

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  as promised here is all of the info regarding what has been going on.

  per the last jc with the elders i realized that all i had done was buy time.

  they felt that we should be df'ed right on the spot, but because i made a plea to wait for a letter coming back from the wts they decided to hold on taking such action.

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  This story should get published somewhere. It is so typical but still unbelievable. I had a friend at work read this story (hope you don't mind). She said "it's so frickin unbelieveable, over the YMCA???".

  I hope both of you enjoy your new freedom. It's great to have a whole new life ahead!
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  Update: So I've been going to some meetings (and other things)

  by WingCommander in

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  i've been absent from this board from some time, as i've been through alot the past few months.

  firstly, my mother passed away after complications from her surgery.

  so i've lost my entire family since 1999. i'm an only child.

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  I am so sorry to hear about your Mom. It is great that you were able to work out arrangements for her that comforted everyone.

  I respect that you need to make sure it is a good decision to be a Witness or not. Until 4 years ago, I felt the same way you did and for many years gave it a good hard try. After I did the research, I was able to quit and feel confident in my decision. By the time I quit, I was only attending sometimes on Sundays and going to the Memorial. I thought I could raise my son with the JWs and also compromise with having special days, gifts in December and let him do holidays at school. But I should have known this would never fly at the Kingdom Hall. Sooner or later you become accountable to a Witness kid at school or some brother/sister who finds out about it. My son had "worldly" friends that were good kids. Any witness friends would just get after him about doing wrong things. I was tired of forcing my son to go to meetings, and he absolutely did not like field service. Joining the ministry school couldn't even be discussed. How much more was I supposed to force him to do? I could not blame him and I didn't feel that I was a failure for him not desiring to be a part of the Kingdom Hall. Once I stopped walking the walk and talking the talk at the Hall, we got labeled as weak and unspiritual. One thing I always did was pray with him and teach him about God. He believes and prays still because he put these things into his heart, not his head. I still have not found a place to worship, and have issues on the Trinity, but I keep trying. In the meantime, I still feel loved by God and not condemned like I did when I was a JW.

  It looks like your congregation is giving you some support and another chance. Just remember, they will want you to do things their way. If it works out for you at the Kingdom Hall and you are truly happy, that's great. You can always post and let us know how you are doing. Best of luck to you and your family.

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  JW dies refusing blood after Caesarean

  by Gayle in

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  http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20070621b1.html.

  thursday, june 21, 2007. .

  jehovah's witness shuns blood, dies.

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  When I told my gynecologist I quit the witnesses, he said he had the same no blood experience with a JW patient. He said that between hospital administration, the men from the congregation and the womans family, she bled to death within hours of giving birth. He was really upset about it and said she had a beautiful baby girl and would not be there to be her mother. He has a lot of JW patients, but he thinks the no blood doctrine is senseless and wrong.

  Brooklyn doesn't care how many people they kill.

  As a mom, whenever I thought about the blood issue, I knew I could never leave my son without his mother no matter what the consequences, even if they disfellowshipped me. Witnesses know they need to be prepared to decide on the blood issue. This just shows what state of brainwashing you have to be in to make a decision to die rather than live.
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  2 images to respond to, take a peak

  by NotaNess in

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  the first image, i can't go into detail on it at all, but just want to know if anyone knows what these are for?.

  the second image, anyone want to take this image and play word scramble in one of your graphics programs and repost it for fun?.

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  Knock knock, I almost wet my pants!!
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  I am going to TRY and leave JWD for the time being!

  by AK - Jeff in

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  i am an addict.

  and that is one good reason to back off some.

  but the overriding reason is that my nerves have been frayed lately by the actions of a hidden 'stalker', a jw who is hiding behind a cyber-curtain.

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  I hope you get this resolved soon. You'll be missed.
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  What was your perception of cults?

  by brinjen in

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  before you realised you were in one...... did you picture pale sickly people in robes who had all their members living in villages?

  or was your 'mental picture' a little more "human?".

  how does that image compare to now?.

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  I thought cults were like Hare-Krishna's, or people who followed a man that forced them to live in a isolated community. When I started researching Brooklyn, I was shocked at all the things I found, not thinking about cults at all. Then something I read got me thinking, so I read some articles about cults. The more I read it hit me, I was really in a cult! OMG!
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  What told you that no holy spirit was moving the BOE?

  by Crumpet in

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  i've read on and off here of various things that told people that god's spirit was not directing the organisation.. personally for me on the last time i got dfed it was the fact that i got reinstated by a meeting of the boe at the exact same moment i was smoking my first cigarettes in 7 months.

  i didnt question it exactly but it did seem odd.

  i mean i had no idea that they were discussing my reinstatement at that moment that i succumbed and had decided in my favour.

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  This is a great question! For me, in my own mind, I set up a separation between the BOE and Brooklyn. I continued to feel that Brooklyn was being directed by holy spirit, but the Elders were making up their own rules when they could get away with it. I guess it started when I was 12 or 13 when the Elders wouldn't believe that my father was nice at the KH but horrible at home. He was never very religious, but to please my Mom, he made all of us go to the meetings and get baptized as a family. He forced us to answer at meetings and go out in service. He was always nice at the Hall, but would come home and curse and swear about everything and everyone at the meetings. He worked with some brothers from other congregations, and some were Elders. I think one of them was his boss. Apparently, these brothers were quite hypocritical and my father would come home enraged. He would drive with terrible road rage to and from the meetings, taking it out on worldly people but never when he saw one of the brothers or sisters driving. It would terrify me to ride in the car with him. By the time we got to the Hall, I was a wreck. I was also very upset because I knew how bad things would get when we got home. I tried to talk to the brothers about how bad it was and they didn't believe me. I could tell that as long as he attended the meetings and met all the requirements, they would never believe me.

  After a couple of years, my father showed his true colors, his temper and all. He stopped coming to meetings. The Elders would take me aside and kept telling me they needed to come over for a sheparding call. They asked me repeatedly. I told them that if they cared at all for my Mom, my sister and I, they would leave him alone. I also told them they should fear for their own safety too, because he would tell us he wanted to physically harm them. Those Elders still acted like I was lying. I think some of them ran into him once or twice in public and his behavior was scary. When they finally accepted it, I started hearing comments like "I don't know how you endured it". My sister and I were "fatherless children". I was crushed that for all that time, they wouldn't believe me. I asked for help and all they could do was tell me I was exagerating. I never had any respect for Elders again. They weren't operating with holy spirit. I knew I was on my own and needed to take care of myself.
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  This site is BAD for me!!!

  by Metamorphosis in

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  it's making me want to rush the convincing of my wife - i want confrontation now, and i want it to go good, and i want her out with me!

  how can you folks do this to me... before starting on this site i was just trying to get by myself w/ my decision - see what you've done!!!!

  now i'm convinced i have to talk to her and make her see what i see!!

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  I agree with having patience and waiting it out. I want my sister out so bad. She is miserable and disagrees with most of the beliefs, but she won't hear a thing about it. I was on cloud 9 when I found out the "truth" about the Borg and got freedom. I wanted to share everything with her. Her response was that I was "witness-bashing". It's been a few years and she isn't quite so defensive anymore. So when she complains about Brooklyn, I just tell her she's right. Hopefully someday she'll want to know. Until she wants it, it's a lost cause.